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    PQ | Features | Mailbag | June 18, 1999
   

Q3A EULA Madness

After Todd Hollenshed reaffirmed his statement that "we're not allowing *any* modification of the Q3test files" to Essobie on RA2IO, public reaction to this has been... well... less than hospitable.

From : AsTrObOy
Subject : Can't modify q3 eh?

well as much as i LOVE id. that is really really LAME. i don't see the point in making such a stupid rule. the only reason quake 2 is so popular is because of the updates given by mods to keep the player's interest. i never play regular dm anymore. all in all it's a bad bad move and is gonna piss off gamers everywhere.

Well, I think that the whole reason they have the rule is because the Q3Atest is just that - a test. The whole purpose of this version of the game is to test the barebones version of it on various people's systems, and look solely for bugs. When the full version comes out, you can bet your firstborne child that it'll be open to modmakers.

From : Pernspike
Subject : Q3test mod issue

Personally, I'm not sure that I know enough about the principles involved to extend a valid opinion. The main factor, I think, is: could you develop a good mod using only the test, one that would have replay value and extend the useful life of the test? This is what id are afraid of, I think, people being able to play cool mods using the demo and therefore having less incentive to buy the full game.

On the other hand, if the q3test is crippled and the only mods are going to be shit that'll be dropped the instant the full version hits the store shelves, then id's position makes substantially less sense.

Bottom line, though: id has the right to dictate what they do and don't want you to do with their game. Anybody who has a problem with that can and should go (AWFUL SEXUAL SLANG, EDITED OUT FOR CHILDREN AND THE SENSITIVE RELIGIOUS TYPES) themselves.

I don't think so... the full version of Q3A is going to be incredibly different than the test version. While it will have the same basic theme, it's going to be infintely better and more well-rounded.

From : Kris
Subject : BAAAAAAAAAAAAh

That whole q3a modifing thing sucks i think. For one it gives us fun and pleasure, for two we are not making any money from it so whats the big deal? Modifing the q3a test is good in my opinion because it keeps us occupied and keeps us playing one of the best games to be released.

The "big deal" is that id Software made it, and they want Q3Atest to stay "as is" solely for hardware testing purposes.

WHERE DID BRIAN HOOK GO?

In case you missed it, Brian Hook left id Software for Verant. But before he did, certain readers tried to spread blasphemous rumours...

From : Smid
Subject : Tee hee

Just wanting to be evil and spread a purely speculative rumour that Brian Hook has left Id to go and work on Daikana at Ion Storm...

I bet. With an addition of another person to work on the game, they should be able to move forward their release date to, oh, the middle of 2003.

Doom 2000?

From : redruM
Subject : Doom 2000

concisely:

-Doom's graphics are way outdated (way to the 30 millionth power)

-Nothing I have played has beaten the multiplayer experience of Quake2. Including Q3test. I don't play single player, as I find it boring anymore and need some real human competition. So for those of you who want a single player experience, I hear Half-Life rocks for SP. I need to try it.

-TRY GENERATIONS!!!!!!!!!!! I did, and it was fun for a bit, but it made me realize how superior the Q2 weapons are. (although the Q1 nailguns and Thunderbolt are fun, bring it on Q3A!)

-If you love Doom so much, what are you doing here!

I agree. Doom was a great and revolutionary game for its time, but I don't know how a Doom 2000 would seperate itself from the FPS pack nowadays. With the incredible progress Doom made, it's hard to top it. If that indeed was the point you were making.

From : Phoenix[xFoG]
Subject : Re: editorial June 3rd 99

I have never read such (awful word describing an animal's bowel movement) before at pq (I think I can even smell it, no wait that's my something else...). I think nostalgia has turned your brain into mush EpsCylonB. I look at turning Doom into a full 3d engine like this: its like taking your favorite black and white movie or show and adding color. Sure we can pholosophize (ya well screw you, so I failed englash what u gonna do 'bout it) if it trully is the same show/movie in color but the color adds so much to the experiance it would be a mistake not to add "technocolor".

I don't think people want to see the same doom from way back when, but want to see some sweet chain saw surgery from neck to navel (sweet up and down). (By the way, if doom2000 was made could you use the chain saw to actually cut off heads? now that is a mod worth playing :) Or in other words, We want see the Doom world as it was conceptualized and placed in an engine in which we can further appreciate it. Like turning an old classic like Star Trek to Star Trek Next Generation.

I think the point that Eps was making was that if Doom is ported to a newer, more current engine, it would lose some of the "old school" feel to it. While I agree with that, Doom 2000 is (hopefully) going to be a new game, so we don't have to worry about id making it seem exactly like the old. They should at least make it so the health packs don't constantly rotate around to face you wherever you walk ;>

JEFF K?

Some people don't realize that "Jeff K." isn't real and his bi-weekly column is a parody of all the self-proclaimed "l33t haX0rs" out there. For shame, for shame.

From : castle crawford
Subject : Jeff K's Corner.

So am I to believe that Planet Quake supports the hacking and piracy of what sometimes is the life work and source of income for legitimate programmers- all in the name of impressing his pubescent friends? Really puts all the legal claims and requirements in the rest of an otherwise great site in perspective. You're doing yourself a great disservice by even associating with hackers and the rest of the "kwel doodz" with chronic masterbatory habits that keep me from enjoying a good multi-player game of Diablo. But then I'm a little bit bitter about that...

Can anybody email me a cracked copy of Gamespy? But seriously, I'm kind of inclined to write a disclaimer stating that Jeff K. isn't a real person at the beginning of his column... but then again we wouldn't get any fun email like these. And now for a comment from the minority.

From : William Clause
Subject : I wonder if they will even get a hint of the sarcasm (JeffK article)

To whom it may concern,

That is the most hilarious sarcasm that I have seen in a long while! Frankly, I think those kids misspell everything by virtue (?) of their public education these days. Two theories:

1. They truly believe it is K3WL to be functionally illiterate.
2. Evolution missed them somehow.

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm correct on either count.

I still stand by the comment "less Quaking, more school." I can just hear their mothers shouting "Enough of your l33t haX0ring, Jeff! It's a school night! Go to bed!


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