Week of: 08/9/99
We're Fans and Fanatics!
to Cozmo's editorial, "Are
We Fans or Fanatics?"
Subject : Re:
Are We Fans or Fanatics?
After reading through Cozmo's article, one line caught my eye:
we (as a species) have started wars, slaughtered thousands over
religion, age notwithstanding......"
you have the quake players. People who will "kill" dozens of opponents
in mere hours, regardless of race, religion, sex, physical forms,
etc. People who will sit for an entire night gleefully whupping
the virtual ass of anyone who happens to be handy at the time,
then wake up and go to their jobs in the morning. Students. Teachers.
Psychologists. Local law enforcement officers. Bums wandering
into the public libraries to sneak in some computer time. All
(ok, most) are normal, stable, competant contributors to society
who do not have hidden urges for mass murder streaks, robbery,
violence, or whatever else the media and other finger-pointers
seem to be, for lack of a better word, blaming on Quake and other
killing and dying on the internet for pure enjoyment, only to
respawn and do it again. And we'll keep on doing it, dammit. Without
ragging on or harassing other gamers. Why? Because its fun and
noone gets hurt, killed, or otherwise mishandled.
if i want to sacrifice a goat to keep my aim true and skills honed,
thats ok too.
It's our goat, we'll sacrifice it if we want to!
Subject : Quake
as a Religion editorial
I'de like to say that the author of this editorial is a generally
ignorant man. I say this because he refered to "jewish" as a splinter
group of Christianity. It was in face the exact oppisite, but
I already feel bad insulting your intelligence by saying that.
I, obviously wrongly, assumed that was common knowledge.
it's very easy to say that Quake is more popular the Allah when
you're looking on the internet. The internet is based on computers,
as is quake. Quakers are all on the computer, and are all online
(most of them anyway). Quakers make web-pages. Muslims are busy
practicing their religion. Most muslims live in the Middle East
and Asia. I think it's safe to say it's less likely that they
would be the most common web-page makers. This example follows
for most other religions.
Conclusion, this editorial merely takes random examples(half of
which are heavily interpreted by the author), and warps them into
a rather unconvincing whole. His main point boils down to "look
at this, Ha, i'm right." And the search engine bit is totally
ludicrous If I were a conservative southerner, i'd be offended.
But, I'm a nothern liberal jew, so hardly care.
Yeah, there were a few people that were offended by that. Cozmo
obviously does not have the fine religious upbringing that I do
(I went to Rockhurst High
School in Kansas City, MO, a Jesuit school). My teachings
there can be summed up in the following:
- The book
of Ezekiel was really weird
paper streamers look cool when attached to overhead fans.
some other stuff about Jesus or somebody like that, but I think
I forgot it in college.
: Jon "Claw" Melenson
Subject : Fans
or Fanatics - A correction
article, I agree with what is said, but Cozmo made one mistake.
Judaism isn't part of Christianity. I'm don't get offended easily,
so I'm not going to write a solid 3 line stream of curses at you
guys or anything. However, I think that some form of revision
or correction needs to be made known. Hey, not many people know
much about the Jews (the article speaks for itself), and I think
that whatever people read should be represented as accurately
as possible. The article reads as follows:
compare Quake to Christianity for instance, with it's having broken
down into different "splinter" factions (Catholicism, Jewish,
Protestant, Baptist, Methodist, etc.).
not a relgious freak or anything (in fact I'd say I don't have
much of a religion at all, other than Quake) but I know that Judaism
is older than Christianity, in fact, Christianity can be considered
an offshoot of Judism.
thought you guys would like to know. Oh yeah. If you happen to
post this letter at all for some reason, (no, that isn't a request)
don't show my e-mail. I don't need a slew of angry e-mails from
the religious nuts out there.
Actually, we haven't had much raving, religious nuts mail. This
is what's called "a good thing".
Subject : Quake
the beginning Carmack created the heavens and the earth. And the
earth was without form, and void; and DooM was upon the face of
the deep. And Carmack said, Let there be dynamic lighting: and
there was OpenGL. And Carmack saw the light, that it was good:
and Carmack divided the pixels from the polys. And Carmack said,
Let there be transparent water, so that it would look cool. And
Carmack created the transparent water, and it was cool. And Carmack
said, Let there be lava, so that the railgun would be much harder
to get. And Carmack made the lava, and the railgun was harder
to get. [The rest of the bible is boring, so I gave up]
How about, "And then Carmack said 'Let there be multiplayer'
and lo, there was. And there were also strange clown honking noises
whenever anybody was shot."
Subject : reply
to "Fans or Fanactics" article
got to say, this is one of the most thought-provoking pieces I've
read for quite some time. In answer to your question, no, I don't
think we are fanatics. Allow me to explain.
up, some background. I'm an undergraduate studying "software engineering"
(fancy title eh). I'm 20 years of age, and one of these damn whippersnappers
that had a computer from a very early age. Over the years, I've
asked myself questions about this habit before.
life seems to be a collection of seperate (and sometimes overlapping)
spheres. Work, family life, hobbies and friends all try to carve
themselves into a bigger part of our lives. In some religious
text (I dont remember which one - they're all the same to me),
I remember seeing the words "nothing in excess". As long as there
is a healthy balance between spheres, you're basically okay.
(and MUDding, where VERY similar questions arise), and gaming
generally are just a fun and challenging way to spend time. Religion
is naturally something people are going to become unusually fired
up over, due to its importance in believer's lives (continuing
the analogy, it's a very large sphere in their life). When gaming
starts to become an excess, and its sphere is 'bloated', then
the bad aspects of it are going to become apparant. Any drug,
type of gambling, rock climbing, fishing, sex, hell - even something
as 'innocent' as train collecting can become an unhealthy area
of your life if you let it.
the key here. If You Let It. Western culture is way overrated.
Sure, America is an important place in world affairs, but look
at all the horror inside it. Is this the price you have to pay
for being somewhere "important" ?
bottom line, is each individual is responsible for their own actions.
The world needs to stop watching the 7 o'clock news and hearing
about how violent movies (or comic books, or thickshakes, or whatever)
have caused some 15 year old to go kill someone. Its so easy to
say that these evil forces are taking control of our helpless
kids. In reality, the only reason these things happen is because
we let them. You want to stop kids shooting each other? Remove
their access to guns. It's pretty fucking simple. Banning natural
born killers may be a great knee-jerk reaction, but how much is
blaming it actually going to get done?
writing this article, you're looking for something to blame. If
you want to fix the world, go do it.
Very good points, I couldn't agree more.
: Glover, Andy B
Try this on for size:
this mean Linus Torvalds is more popular that God? I don't think
analogy is flawed.
I don't think the analogy's point was to make the article, just
to support it. But I do see what you're saying.