Week of: 08/20/99
Evil with a Railgun
to Fiend's editorial, "The
Evils of Camping"...
: Dat Busta
Subject : Fiend's
I completely agree with Fiend's article. I say, if something is
possible in a game, then it's legal. You can camp in most mods.
If it pisses someone off when people camp, then they should improve
their skills to the point where they instinctually check the shadows
and regular hiding spots for opponents, instead of attempting
to force other players to lower their playing standards until
it's something they can beat. There is no difficulty setting on
human players, and many people in the "Quake community" need to
realize that. Oh yeah, to those of you that make "rules" when
you log onto a server(i.e. No BFG, no Quad, etc) when the server
has allowed those things that you want to disallow: Shut the hell
up. If you're tired of getting killed by a BFG blast, learn to
avoid the damn thing. It's not impossible. Hide behind a goddamned
pillar or something. Don't just bitch, you bitch.
The easiest way for me to avoid being shot by a BFG blast is to
play on a server where the BFG is disabled. I hate that damn thing.
: SingleTrak [Camper]
Subject : In
I think that editorial on camping and whining is one of the most
practical gaming editorials I've ever read. Everytime I camp I
hear people say "Learn to play quake the real way", "Lamer", or
some other pointless comment that flies out of someone's mouth
when they don't like the way they die. People like to hold grudges
in games which, in my opinion, is silly. A game is a game, play
it. Camping is a skill that can be used effectively in a game.
You never hear sofware companies say, "Oh, and one more thing
about this game, No camping". What the hell? To those who think
that, grow up. No one person owns the gaming world and can proclaim
that camping is not aloud. Thanks Fiend.
I don't think I agree with "camping is a skill"... I've
seen a ton of crappy, skillless newbies camping, although I can
see some instances where it would be useful.
: Patrick Irish
Subject : Campers
HE would like people to shut up and for everyone to stop calling
him a camper but I have no sympathy for this guy. I know exactly
how these guys are since I am in an action quake clan. there are
only two things in this world that scare me, and one is nuclear
war... "what is the other thing?" says an voice off in the background.
"the other thing that scares you"
"two campers on opposite teams in a game of action quake."
If you have ever been in a game of action quake with that circumstance,
be ready to sit there and beg for one of them to move. In my situation,
8 of us waited for the 45min timelimit to end the round to hit
instead. Good thing I had a copy of the doom comic book to pass
the time. *sigh* campers....
Two campers in Rocket Arena is just as bad, if not worse.
: George Jones
Subject : Camping
vs. Strategic gameplay
have to admit to camping when I first started playing Quake. After
I had learned the power the rocket launcher held I would grab
it, hide myself (usually in a corner of the ceiling with the grappling
hook), and wait for someone to come by and blaze the hell outta
them. This grew old. I soon learned that that is camping, and
camping is lame. Afterwards, I learned strategic locations of
all of my maps; places that might be overlooked in the heat of
battle and offered me not only protection if I was low on life,
but also gave me a tactical advantage if I needed to turn the
tables in a match. I have found that some of these places are
often the same as my old camping spots, the difference is in how
I use them. This is the difference between camping and strategic
gaming. Campers hide to rack up huge frag counts, usually sitting
in the same spot for great lengths of time and almost always near
a coveted item. Strategists learn key points in a map and use
them to their advantage when the time is right, never staying
in one spot for long (else you become a camper).
Sounds like a good balance.
: Ryan LaBarge
Subject : the
evils of camping
do i know what you mean fiend. i too have been stuck on a modem
from doom to present and see a little phone jack almost as often
as i see "NeoEnzo is gibbed by L33tQuAk3rD00d's rocket" but to
get to the point if people just wanna run into the action and
get capped in the head a couple seconds later then wait to respawn
let'um but i'd rather spend my time playing the damn game then
finding new ways to rotate my head while laying dead on the ground
so if staying alive a tad bit longer or (god forbid) winning the
match for my team means that i have to be considered a "wuss","lamer"
or "llama" by some some 12 year old kid in nowhere,kansas i feel
it's worth every damn "camping wuss" or "lamer" that kids got.
Campers apparently enjoy long, complex, run-on sentences.