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    PlanetQuake | Features | Tech Tips | 8-5-2000
   

Tech Tips Mailbag

This is where your gaming and hardware needs are met. Be all that you can be or get out of the game! This won't be a forum for techno-geeks to find more ways to impress their non-technical friends, it's for plain folk who need help to better their gaming experience. But don't blame us if you blow your machine sky high; we're offering tips, not the Bible on computers. The mailbag is alive and well - send in those questions to TechTips. !
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From: Phil
Subject: Quake 3 and GeForce troubles (worth repeating)

Okay, I'll start with my system:

PCChips M577 motherboard w/ AGP
AMD K6-2 450Mhz
128MB PC100 SDRAM
2 video cards: the old one - 3dfx Voodoo3 2000
the new one (that I'm using right now) - Inno3D
Tornado GeForce 256
Sound Blaster Live! Value

Here's what happens: I can start up the game okay, sound and everything are
fine. I go into Single Player (Skirmish or regular) or Multiplayer and fire
up a game. I play around for about 5 seconds, then, all of a sudden, without
warning, the game crashes with the error message: This program has performed
an illegal operation and will be shut down. Details = Q3A.EXE has performed
an invalid operation (no, not page fault, just operation) followed by a
bunch of gibberish that's too long for me to write down and I can't copy and
paste. Then, after I close the program, the colors on my desktop are all
screwed up, and I can't open anything with the mouse except for the Start
Menu. Then I try to restart or shut down and after I tell the computer to,
it freezes up completely! It does this every time I fire up Q3A. This all
happened after I installed my GeForce card, which was the day b4 I wrote
this e-mail. Please tell me how I can avoid the crashing!

Peace
Phil

This was an area worth repeating because so many people write in about not just video, but GeForce cards in particular.  So let's examine the facts one more time.

You had a Voodoo3 and now you have installed a GeForce card. Question is, did you remove the old drivers first?  Not just the card, but the drivers.   Take a look below and see how we recommend removing old drivers and installing new ones.

Next, did you take the old q3config.cfg out of your Quake3\baseq3 folder and start over?  There is a big difference between a Voodoo3 and a GeForce in the config of your games.  Quake 3 recognizes the Voodoo3 as a 3DFX card using Voodoo OpenGL.  And it recognizes the GeForce as an NVIDIA card using Default OpenGL.

1.  Get a fresh download of the latest drivers form Reactor Critical. Unzip them to a temporary location. 

2.  Go to Control Panel>Add/remove programs and remove any drivers listed for your video card.

3.  Go to Windows\INF and look for any INF files pertaining to your video card and any other installations you tried and delete those INF files. (INF files can be viewed with Notepad to see what is in them and see what they belong to.)

4.  Reboot your computer (it will be in horrid VGA now) and Windows will see your video card and ask for where the drivers might be, you will show it the file you unzipped the new drivers to. 

5.  You will reboot and new drivers will be installed.  Confirm so by going to Start menu>Run>type: msinfo32.exe  System Information will open.  Look under Components>Display and see that the new drivers were installed.

Now try your game again.  Having deleted the q3config.cfg you will need to re-enter your cd-key and preferences.  But now Quake 3 will start all fresh and new.  If you are still receiving the illegal operation, let me offer you and all gamers this information:

And illegal operation can be caused by:

1.  A virus.  Do a complete virus scan.

2.  Faulty hardware drivers.  (I think we hit the nail on the head here)

3.  Corrupt executables.  Unlikely from a cdrom, but not unheard of.

4.  Faulty memory.  Make sure Windows is reporting your memory properly.  There are some technicians who will test your memory for you.

From: Vampyre
Subject: Cable Rip-off

ok.. so here it is.. i built a spankin new amd700mhz and subscribed to a cable modem
service just for this infernal game... yah... i know.. but i have a prob... my line speed is only at
580kbps max... my cable company says that they have to keep the line speed down so that
the whole webhog issue won't be an issue... well that's all fine and dandy for them... but I'm
pinging as much as 300 in a game!.. Who wants to play with me?... nobody... now.. i have
extracted enough info to know that the line speed is cut down right inside of the modem...
they program it to that speed!... so.. knowing this... i figure i might be able to find someone
who knows how to "fix" it... its a surfboard sb3100... if you know anything... or anyone who
might i would appreciate it a lot... all i want to do is play a smooth game o' QuakeIII

First off, it really gets me when someone is told by their service company "we are only going to give you blah....when you thought you were paying for blah."  The answer is no.  In other words, if you were promised a certain speed when you signed up, if their advertisements gave you NO impression that they would have control of when and how much speed you were allowed, then confront them.  You are paying for a service.  And as for the "webhog" issue... they need to update their services then if they have signed on too many users.  The deal when you signed up was not "you can have good speed until we have too many customers to let you have it" was it?  So go! Call em up!

Then in the meantime, hop on over to Speedguide and see if they can help bring better performance to what is left of your line speed.  And don't forget our Quake III Arena Tips articles.  Much speed to be gained with a few config tweaks.


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