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    PlanetQuake | Features | Tech Tips | 1-6-2001
   

Tech Tips Mailbag

This is where your gaming and hardware needs are met. Be all that you can be or get out of the game! This won't be a forum for techno-geeks to find more ways to impress their non-technical friends, it's for plain folk who need help to better their gaming experience. But don't blame us if you blow your machine sky high; we're offering tips, not the Bible on computers. The mailbag is alive and well - send in those questions to TechTips. !

by Love2Play

From: Brent
Subject:
Quake 1 ping loss

Hello,

I have been playing quake since it came out really. About 6 months ago my
ISP upgraded it lines and did other things and ever since that upgrade it
doesn't matter what ISP I use or what modem I use I get a constant locking
symbol and a ping around 1500 in Quake. I try servers that are in the 200's
and it doesn't matter. I have tried EVERYTHING. The only thing that seems to
work is Quakeworld and even then I am lagging a little. Is there any
suggestions, downloads, etc that I can do that would make my ping lower.
Also I am thinking about going to satillete connection, any suggestions or
comments on that? Would that help for my Quake, Quake 2, and Quake 3 more?
Please reply.

Thanks,

Brent

It doesn't sound to me like you need to lower your ping. It sounds more like you have had a change in your computer performance or phone lines.  If the only thing that changed was your ISP changing lines, I'd say they messed you up somehow.  But if you have changed hardware, network settings, drivers, anything like that it could be the culprit.  Lagging a little on 56k is not uncommon.  The 1500 ping concerns me greatly and that kind of ping can normally be attributed to the ISP.  Your modem can cause disconnects and lag, but a 1500 ping is usually the ISP.

Check out our previous article on Traceroute Your Connection to really examine the problem.


From: Reno Rivalta
Subject: Internet problems

I am having trouble with my Internet connection. I got cable modem about two months ago and I have not been able to play Quake III ever sins then. I had the cable modem service check the lines and they were fine. I did some ping testing and my ping is all over the place. I know there must be something wrong with the cable modem service but I do not know what it is. I am wondering if you have found that DSL is better for Quake III then cable modem. If so I will switch to that service which has now become available for the same price.


Thanks for any help you can give,
Reno Rivalta

If I were you I would take a look above first and check out the article I suggested to Brent. Using Pingplotter you can see your average ping and also see what hop(s) fail along the way. Normally there are bad hops that haunt your connection.  Armed with this information, you can call your ISP and demand action based on an informed complaint.  At least sound like you know what you are talking about ;-) Cable is also notorious for packet loss.  Think about it, how often does your cable service go out? How good is your cable TV picture?  How crowded is your neighborhood? Cable is a huge Network. All those users are crowded onto one big network and you are sharing their bandwidth. 

DSL is usually better because depending on the DSL service you choose, it is a dedicated line.  However, not everyone can have DSL. There is usually a requirement that you live within a certain distance of the Telephone company router (their equipment office). So you will have to call your local DSL provider to see if you qualify.

 

From: Dr2
Subject: Questions.......

I have Quake 3.20 full with all the fix'ns the game plays great on my new
computer but when i try to get on the net to play a Deathmatch i get the
phone jack symbol every time i have not got on yet! i am using 56.6 modem i
know that i am still on the net and there is no connection problem cuz i can
still surf around the net but i just can't play interactively! doesn't
matter if i use game syp, ping tool or manually enter the ip address i
freeze up instantly!

is this a modem configuration problem?
Is it a server problem?
Is It a game problem missing a file?
what causes this do i have to get cable?, is cable the only way to play
quake interactively?
will the problem consist even after getting cable?

Yes.

Ok, ok... I'll explain ;-) The modem configuration can matter because sometimes there are modem init. string that can help your modem performance. But you can make yourself nuts trying to figure out which ones. If you have the ability, get cable. Save the frustration.

The server can also be a factor.  If you play on a server who does not limit the players rate, FPS or ping then the other players can lag you.  Say the server is a PIII 500 on cable and some guy comes on with a 900 ping.  Goodbye bandwidth.  Or another guy comes on with his rate still at 25000, goodbye more bandwidth. Other players can suck the life out of an already weak server.

To really see what goes into preventing lag, you will have to read most of the articles in TechTips. I'm sorry, but playing Quake without lag is not plug n play, it takes some work. But any true Quaker knows it's worth the effort ;-)

 

 


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