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    PlanetQuake | Features | Rants N' Raves | id Bashing
   

id Bashing
Do people really have to bash on id?
  — by Pappy-R and the Pips

I'm going to take this from the "techview". The view of someone who does techsupport not only for PlanetQuake. And since Pappy already gave away the secret about my attempt at being anonymous, I do techsupport for GameSpy Arcade. That encompasses more than 160 games.

What I see in the complaints that Matt talks about is frustration. And I agree with him that it is unfair, but I have an understanding of what gamers are going through. The majority people who buy the games are not computer literate, they are not always previous gamers and have no idea that games (or even hardware and etc...) are released and then improved upon consistently by the use of what we call "patches". The average consumer buys a product and thinks "ok, I got what I wanted". Then sometimes it does happen that a patch comes out that seems to "break" what was already good. That was the feeling when Point Release 1.27 came out and all mods became null and void. So there too you can understand the feeling of the mod community being angry that id had now patched Quake 3 and made their mods totally useless. A slap in the face to their hard work.

I will also pose this question; how many people have emailed for techsupport to any game company and received more than the autoresponse. Meanwhile the game fan sites have forums and chat rooms etc... full of simple gamers who give of their free time and provide the techsupport the game distributor does not. Unfortunately, idsoftware takes the blame when Activision doesn't come through with customer support. The average consumer again does not realize the distributor is the one who should be providing support. So it's really a matter of no blame for either side. The consumer has no idea what goes on in the making, distribution and maintenance of the game. The creator is trying to improve what he was pushed to release in a competitive market and then comes through for us when we scream "we need a cheat patch!" I think everyone is doing the best they can with what information they have.

Last word from me, I am a completely loyal fan of idsoftware. I have never found another game I have played as long as the Quake Series. To me they are genius in their work for Online Gamers. I trust their judgment on whatever products they are working on now and look forward to what they will bring us. They have never shown to me anything other than a strong desire to make what gamers want. Long Live Quake!

  — Love2Play

Everyone is chomping at the bit to go longer in their replies. This topic seems to have hit a nerve around here, and not for the reasons some would have thought. We don't love Quake because we do PQ, we do PQ because we love Quake. Gather round youngin's, Will is gonna pull out his soap box for his first shot at the PQ Rants n'Raves.

Oh, don't take me here. I've seen this too many times as well. Four words to those who bitch and moan - STFU! I have mostly heard this crap in response to a point release distribution. Remember - you are not the only gamer. Id software is not trying to screw with us - they believe in their products. We need to remember all that id has done for us. They have been putting out top notch games since the early days, driving and pushing technology along the way. They also stay close to the gaming community. I like that. They respond to feedback, they do interviews, they update their .plan files, they open the source code (NOT required) - all this for us gamers. So if have have feedback on what id software does, give it up. I'm sure they invite it. But do it with respect, damnit! You'll have a better chance at getting heard. And hey, If I had to weigh out a night of coding or cruising around in my Ferrari with chicks hanging out the sides - where'd I put my car keys.

Although, I will agree with the sniveling bastards on one issue - the projects. The fact that id chose to do another version of Doom is cool - very cool - and what I've seen so far is definitely drool worthy, but I would have preferred to see something fresh from the minds that have brought us such kick ass titles in the past

  — Will

Golly Will, you say "sniveling bastards" like it's a bad thing. More passion on the side of the original rant and it's been a while since we had a nice big STFU around here too. Now it's my turn to take a swat at the pumpkin, or whatever.

I agree, with everyone's opinion up to this point. Yes that's a lock on the side of the original Rant, and with good reason. All the other contributors here made and expanded on all the main points so I'll just over simplify it for anyone still having second thoughts on the issue at hand.

These are games. They are retail products. Vote with your dollar.

How's that? Now how many other retail products do we have in our lives that we flame, rant and rave at a company behind them? If it's crap, I don't buy it, and I bought everything id Software has made in multiples.

  — Pappy-R

I think the feedback is going to be very interesting on this one, so let'er rip people!

If you want to crank up on a brand new issue, speak up! Send us your Rants n'Raves!


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